{"id":1508,"date":"2013-07-16T10:09:03","date_gmt":"2013-07-16T14:09:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/?p=1508"},"modified":"2013-07-30T11:25:46","modified_gmt":"2013-07-30T15:25:46","slug":"a-famous-composer-agrees-with-my-interpretation-of-ego-in-aleatoric-and-totally-serial-music","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/?p=1508","title":{"rendered":"A Famous Composer Agrees With My Interpretation of Ego In Aleatoric and Totally Serial Music"},"content":{"rendered":"

Aleatoric, in the ‘rationalists’ usage, means dependent on chance or, in the usage of the advocates of New Music, set free from the ‘subject’.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Here the subject is clearly meant to be the composer’s ‘ego’.<\/p>\n

But even if the ‘integral rationalisation’ succeeds and everything is ‘calculated’ in advance down to the last detail, there must be a ‘subject’ to do the calculations. Even the most formidable electronic computer can only calculate what a man gives it to calculate.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Krenek, E. (1966). Exploring music; essays. New York: October House.
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\nFantastic observation! Even in totally serial music, indeterminate music and chance music, the ego of the composer cannot be removed because the subject<\/em> is still making choices about the process! What question<\/em> we ask as composers immediately limits the answers we will receive.<\/p>\n

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Aleatoric, in the ‘rationalists’ usage, means dependent on chance or, in the usage of the advocates of New Music, set free from the ‘subject’.<\/p>\n

Here the subject is clearly meant to be the composer’s ‘ego’.<\/p>\n

But even if the ‘integral rationalisation’ succeeds and everything is ‘calculated’ in advance down to the last detail, there must […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":20001,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[51,61],"tags":[149,139,150],"class_list":["post-1508","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-art-philosophy","category-thoughts-on-music","tag-aleatoric","tag-ernst-krenek","tag-totally-serial","odd"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1508","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/20001"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1508"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1508\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1512,"href":"https:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1508\/revisions\/1512"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1508"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1508"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/opensourcemusic.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1508"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}